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Thursday, July 29, 2010

Al Roney and John Tighe talk about NXIVM on WGDJ Talk 1300 AM

Well you asked for it and you got it.The NXIVM chat. My thanks to WGDJ Talk 1300 and here is a link to their website {here}.
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14 comments:

15 Minutes of Fame said...

BE CAREFUL.....Local Talk Radio and Newspapers can lead to harder public media venues, i.e. Local Radio News , TV, then to even more detrimental widespread usage such as national rags(National Inquirer), National TV news and talk programs,etc. Then it goes viral on all the social networking sites until it careens into the ultimate full disclosure-WIKI-LEAKS. oh my.

Ben lives on said...

Steve you were seriously tardy today. You know your not the only shyster the swinging Bronfman brats can hire.

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Cult Buster said...

I see where Nancy thinks of herself as a Blog Sensation. John, give this poor girl a trainee job, would you please?

Lesson One: the goal is to write something of interest to other people.



Anyways: a new rumor has is that the local cult higher-up's have a plan to pack up and take the show to Vancouver. Must be the local heat is getting them nervous so they figure a new spot in a new country will give them some breathing room.

Good for the Capital Region I guess. But it really doesn't take care of the problem, does it? Steve can't be happy.

Anonymous said...

If the internet knew boundaries…

Anonymous said...

I'd rather have them shift to something with bars around them, like a jail cell. Methinks Raniere wants to get into the entertainment industry and brainwash a bunch of good looking chicks so he can boink them.

Anonymous said...

WE NEED TO GET JOHN A GUEST APAPEARANCE ON AL RONEY'S SHOW SO THAT HE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS FROM LISTENERS. LET'S START BOMBARDING AL FOR SUCH AN APPEARANCE AT ALR@TALK1300.COM

PS/HEY, VANFRAUD, YOU'RE INVITED TOO.

Who Wants NXIVM in Their Back Yard said...

Well if the cult is moving Vancouver it must be Vancouver B.C. Canada as that is the only Vancouver NXIVM has a center.

It is not that easy to move to Canada due to immigration laws that Canada has. Only a few ways I see it happening (share more if you know)
A. Many 'marriages' of US NXIVM follower to Canadian citizens to have a legal right to move to Canada. Too many of us know that NXIVM does not really support marriage so this could back fire in their face.

B. The Leaders of NXIVM and their followers illegally moved the Mother Ship of NXIVM from Albany NY USA into Vancouver Canada. Too many spy's within NXIVM for this to happen as the beans would get spilled.
C. The NXIVM leaders and followers get fake citizenship papers (too many of us know they are not citizens of Canada)

Plan to move Mother Ship to Canada not looking so good.

I wonder if they NXIVM has all the proper paperwork to run a business in Canada filed with the Canadian Government? Does NXIVM file taxes with the Canadian Revenue Agency (USA equivalent of the IRS) on the money charged to Canadians citizens for the courses they take in Canada?

It is rumored that when a student enrolls in a NXIVM class / course all charges are done at NXIVM’s Mother Ship Albany NY USA. NXIVM then send only sales commissions (and other commissions paid) to the NXIVM members of Canada.

My questions are;
1. What about all the profits NXIVM USA make from Canadian taking NXIVM classes in Canada? I’m not an accountant but it seems like the Canadian Revenue Agency should be paid their fair share from NXIVM Mother Ship profits earned by NXIVM's business in Canada.
2. USA trainers and sale people who work and earn money from teaching, recruiting and other services like Explorations of Meaning(EM as NXIVM calls them) while doing business in Canada, is this income they earn in Canada claimed to the Canada Revenue Agency?

NXIVM and their US trainers are most likely paying the Canadian Revenue Agency and their business dealing is all above board.

If not, someone could and should report NXIVM and their contractors to the Canadian Revenue Agency as it seems tax evasion.

3. What do NXIVM US Trainers and sale people tell the Canadian Border Service (CBS) the reason for their visit to Canada? Do they tell the CBS they are visiting friends?
a. Sure they have friends in Canada but to tell the CBS that is the only reason for the US trainers visit is not full disclosure.
b. Why would the US trainers / sale people not share with the CBS that they are visiting friends and teaching training, selling NXIVM courses or doing these EM’s which = into making money while in Canada?

What would be the downside to the CBS knowing that they are there to visit their friends while they are earning money in Canada from Canadian citizens?

If you check out NXIVM class on Honest and Disclosure in WIPO website one might have a better idea of how one could say they are visiting friends and not disclose they are also working at a NXIVM training in Canada while the US trainers are visiting their friends

Maybe NXIVM will go to Mexico. They have two centers in Mexico and it's an easier transition to move from the USA to Mexico.

One big problem some Mexicans citizens are not going to put up with Van-twirp’s and Nurse Nancy’s behavior like the United State government and citizens do.

I've heard some Mexican families are very mad about what has happened to their children.

Based on this the United States might be stuck with what I think is the World’s Greatest Con Man and Woman team who are the leaders of NXIVM and their zombie followers from the USA and other parts of the world who have moved to Albany NY

save the victoria pool society said...

aren't the bronfmans canadian?

Anonymous said...

I just worry that there is someone out there, a Dad, a Grandparent. even an aunt looking for that poor little boy. He belongs to somebody. You can't just "give away" your dead sister's child. the story makes no sense. Selling children in this country is illegal.

It might not have been them who didn't pay their taxes said...

It makes one wonder if NXIVM or any of their members are filing their business and or personal taxes within the United States, Canada, and Mexico.

What about State Taxes?

Could not find any information on the foundations that Sara and Clare Bronfman run.

Do any of the readers, VanFraud, the not so nice nurse, or the NXIVM followers have any information on on how NXIVM deals with their taxes.

VanFraud, the Not So Nice Nurse, the Bronfman Brats or the zombie followers don't seem to mind spending our tax dollars on the Merry-go-rounds they call legal battles.

How does this play out regarding the kind of people they are working to become. A question to ask yourselves is; would the above group of people pay all their taxes to local, national and international authorities?

With amount that VanFraud has gambled with his members money to 100+ million of dollars in just bad business dealing.

How much do you think between NXIVM and the Bronfmans spend each month on legal bills? Do either one of them know?

If added up it must be over another 100 million with all the NXIVM / Bronfman legal cases over the last couple of years.

What do you think 200 + million dollars could do to really move the world forward.

I just bought new Speedos for Vanguard Week said...

We surely need to get rip roaring drunk before hitting V-Week. Is there a good bar within walking distance of the place? Or should we bring our own coolers?

Does anyone know how to get a hold of some tasers, too? If one of those paramilitary types starts giving me the BS, he's taking a hit and doing the asphalt boogaloo.

What's the game plan?

Bring lots of cameras and camcorders said...

If you are not going to V-week through the NXIVM sponsored event but still want to get an idea of the circus show that takes place you can book a room at the same place NXIVM holds V-week

Silver Bay on Lake George of the Adirondacks YMCA conference & retreat center. The address is 87 Silver Bay Rd. Silver Bay, NY 12874

Phone: 518-543-8833
Toll Free: 1-888-758-7229
Website: www.silverbay.org

Rumor is NXIVM followers are vegetarians (at least they are while at V-week). Ask if you can eat with the staff

Where's the beef said...

No meat at V-week! That is unless you check in with VanFraud as he controls the meat within the community.

Remember faithful followers it's a breach against your community contract to have any meat without VanFrauds approval.

Anonymous said...

Lily Tomlin says......

just remember, we're all in this alone.