First let me say that decent people can disagree over abstract art. I’m not even convinced exactly where the best location is for the cities 9/11 memorial. Right now I’m leaning towards the drink hall as the best spot but I will be happy to engage fellow citizens in an honest conversation and yes even with those who disagree with me.
Lance Ingmire, a prominent and outspoken member of the Heritage Area Visitor Center Board has been quoted as saying the monument is “dripping in blood” I believe that Lance is lobbying to have it placed at New York State Military Museum as a way to draw visitors to the area. Then it will be more at home with that Museums exhibits that are all “dripping in blood”
But Lance is a nice enough guy and he does spend a great deal of time volunteering for the community.
Who I do take issue with is Amejo Amyot.. A rich ultra-liberal who considers herself Saratoga’s celebrity artist or as the cities official "Artist in Residence."
Fucking spare me. Amyot who likes to call herself the founder of the Arts District on Beekman Street,{which is basically a collection of bars and restaurants with a lot of “FOR RENT” signs} has been known to browbeat and bully fellow Saratoga Artists who dare to question her opinions or criticize her own work.
Amejo is just bitter she wasn’t consulted or even considered for the commission.Thank God {then it would really have been a pile of scap}
I was at a City Council meeting where Amyot called the Twin Towers a monument to American greed and went on to disparage her fellow local artists as “embarrassing”
VIDEO HERE.
As I sat there and heard this tirade from the tired old bitter Women, who lives in the lap of luxury, while cuddled by her wealthy and successful husbands I wanted to brush my teeth. “Champion of the poor” she calls herself, “friend of staving artists.” My ass.
You know honey my whole life I’ve been poor but managed to struggle along.Partronizing rich women like you always rubbed me the wrong way.
“Symbol of American greed” check hubbies portfolio lately dear? Want to see a real “Symbol of American greed”? Check out the The Ayco Company,on Broadway you know the subsidy of the Goldman Sachs Company? The place your bud attorney Peter Martin fucked the investors and made millions?
Then again if you really think the memorial is a “Monument to American Greed” what better place for it than next to a real “Monument to American Greed”
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"husbands' at first I thought it was a typo but them I remembered she has a couple rich old men.She sure never liked the poor ones
What a bitch. I bet she's for Charter change to.
Why not have her find a spot for the sculpture in her beloved "Arts District". Oh, wait, she wouldn't want that, you can't charge rent if there's a sculpture there. Glad you're getting back to Saratoga some more. We need you out there!
Brush my teeth<I wanted to take a shower after listening to that witch
If the speaker gets your blood a boilin', please separate the MESSENGER from the MESSAGE. Her step-by-step primer on the Process of Public Art is spot-on and used Nationwide... hell, globally--
FIRST the City designates a LOCATION. Then an RFP asks The Public for submissions, designs that will respect The Setting as the Artists pursue their craft. Then after periods of Public Comment, qualified Judges do that arduous job of picking "The Best."
The Arts Council chose to thunder ahead with a closed process. John- You may be the only person commanding enough respect to ask the Arts Council to flat-out tell you what slate of artists they considered, and what criteria dictated their selection/appointment/anointment.
HAD the Open PROCESS been followed, any "City Center" submissions would have been suitable and smaller... as per the specs in the RFP. Any "Visitors' Center" submissions would have been less abstract, maybe a Water Sculpture for a City built on Springs... again, there would be broad guidance in the RFP.
As it is, we have a massive sculpture with no home in site. Hate the writer, call her names, damn her to a burning purgatory for all eternity. But at least SHE will have a home. The arrogance of the Arts Council has left them hawking a homeless sculpture, destined to wander the County forever...
...that's IF it ever gets off the scrap yard that nurtured its insatiable appetite for hallowed rusted steel.
http://nowherethisnews.blogspot.com
7:50
Thanks for informative background about the process and for link to a massively ugly sculpture
Rather than 'Tempered by Memory" I call it
"Disturbing without Insight" Just hideous.
Kyle good to see you here and feel free to call me an asshole anytime. I still like the Drink Hall, hell even Jim Kunstler agrees with me and anyone who calls his site "Clusterfuck nation" has got to be right.
Amyot thinks of herself as being coruscating but she is more pertinacious and vapid. Her art is desultory at best and nugatory and boring at worst.>.I have one of her pieces in my garden and my dog does like to urinate on it though
The work of this women could fill the Museum of Bad Art.Worse than bad- might as well be nothing. Trust fund babies seem to like it. I do think she might have made a good taxidermist. But then again even that takes some talent.
Something tells me a sleeping giant has been wakened.
I bet NXIVM is happy
Your insticts are correct, John.
I went to a Charter Change information session. Ms A attended and commented that she was all for charter change because it would open up the opportunity for women to serve. Her logic was that the current council struture required skills that women don't typically have.
Kind of insulting to women, wouldn't we say? Because she doesn't understand things like accounting, finance, rules of order, management, etc..she thinks we need do dumb down the whole system to make room for her and people like her.
It's people like this who represent everything that has gone wrong with this city.
10:15
Holy Emma Willard and Mrs. Russell Sage!
This was uttered in City Hall in Saratoga f'n Springs??!!!
Gadzooks the place is in serious decline. Unf'nbelievable!!!!
@10:13
You come around every single time John enters a post on something other than NXIVM andmake them same meaningless comment.
Why not actually contribute to the conversation? Otherwise STFU.
There's enough on this blog, John could completely stop posting. Wouldn't change the great job he has done exposing this nefarious group of thieves, charlatans and tax evaders.
So STFU already.
John-
You KNOW you remain The Best in my book. Neither you nor ANY individual is an "Asshole" for their personal opinion of a very Public Persona. You said it with Eloquence and Common Sense when you wrote- "First let me say that decent people can disagree over abstract art."
As for Jimmy the K, we both agree that our Planet is best served by the fact-based opinions of the unpopular outsiders. Through the grace of God, She might reward you with the Arts Council's list of The Few, The Chosen, The Invited Artists.
Senator, I KNOW many Assholes. An you Sir, are no Asshole. Welcome back to the Saratoga stage, keep The Bastards honest!
-With Gratitude and Respect,
Kyle
The witch suffers from rich white women syndrome. She claims solidarity with the working classes of the world as long as they clean her toilets and mop her floors and never ever talk back.
A suggested solution to the city's 9/11 Memorial issue:
http://thetechvalleytimes.blogspot.com/
Thoughts
Isn’t this women some kind of Sex coach? Maybe she would like an 8 foot sculpture of a vagina. Then it could be used as a teaching tool for the bone headed man in Saratoga.
What I learned from Amnyot is how to buy up derelict properties with federal grant money and then renovate them with more government money. Then sell for a bundle or just jack the rents up on real artists. Then I learned you go to city hall and complain about greed
Anything Johnson does will always be condemned by these brain dead elitist, They live in a make believe world
Amyot, Amejo,
. . . is an artist, creator and retired sexologist. She has worked in clay for over 20 years and discovered women’s ways of knowing from the Goddesses born from her hands and clay. Through shamanic journeys and deep intuitive ways, she brings forth from ancient mysteries the innate powers of the female. Dr. Amyot has taught at numerous universities and medical schools and had a private practice in sex therapy. She specializes in women’s workshops in female sexuality and deep introspective inner awareness, using music, chanting, movement and drumming to reach intuitive knowledge
LICENSEE ADDRESS PENALTY
Lance W. Ingmire
(Agent)
44 Trombley Road
Stillwater, NY 12170
$750 fine
Respondent failed to comply with Department Regulation 60 in connection with an annuity
replacement transaction.
I appreciate Kyle explaining the process. I can understand that Ms. Amyot may be displeased with how this sculpture was selected and the RFP involved and/or ignored. But reallY? Rationalizing the murder of innocent people? Waiters? firemen? People from Saratoga were murdered on 9/11. That was OK w/ Ms. Amyot?? Mr. Kauth deserved to be murdered! His children left w/o a father? Seriously?? I think it is clear there is only one person in this entire drama who is devoid of sensativity, civility and taste. Pathetic!
Let's see here, we have a jealous art-protester who says that the WTC deserved to be hit because it was a symbol of 'American greed.'
You have another art-protester who has no background in art but condemns the sculpture as 'ugly,' calls it 'unsafe' but he is not an engineer (the engineers have said it is safe) and has lied about the openness of the process to create the sculpture.
Then you have another art-protester who calls for the sculpture to be 'broken or to steal it.'
Finally we have the Visitor Center board who thinks patriotism means excluding patriotic artistic expression.
The question is why would anyone ever visit Saratoga if these horrible people typified the sort of citizen who lived here? Not many and that is a hardball fact. Honestly I must say that I have not seen such an unpleasant group of art-haters anywhere else in the world. That is their one overriding distinction. Yeccchhh.
This women is typical the entire Democratic party in Saratoga. Out of touch, extreme and a bunch of rich white folks afraid of hearing Spanish in Downtown
Not only is the old broad simply stupid and likely crazy, she's uglier than sin!
How does she stop herself from offing herself every time she looks at a mirror? She looks like the world's only living abortion!
So, she's a gray rug muncher.
Saratoga Shill-
In response to your stream-of-consciousness all-too-tireless tirade, I feel compelled to Temper your Buggery--
In the small village of New York City I spent twelve years leading weekend walking tours encompassing Architecture, History, and Public Art for Jackie Onassis' beloved Municipal Art Society, the 92nd Street Y, and the Art Deco Society. My favorite tour to lead was 90 minutes at the WTC complex, including a detailed background on Fritz Koening and his bronze sphere in the plaza.
No boasting here. Just trying to educate the self-righteous elitists preaching from the Gansevoort Ironworks.
http://nowherethisnews.blogspot.com
Her real name is Phyllis Amyot she was married to Judge Ferradino who caught her in bed with a black guy. He frowned on this and divorced her. Then she after spending countless hours with her vibrator and voodoo doctors she discovered that her real name was Amejo and she went to work teaching other women how do use their vibrators.
Then she thought she would take up art. After buying some Play-Doh she declared that she was a great artist and using her new husband’s money along with government money founded the Beekman St Art District.
Now drunk and deluded by that great success she feels no project in the city can proceed without her approval.
And that is why the old broad is so pissed off.
Her feeling is hurt and she is out of batteries for her vibrator
I have known Phyllis for many years and I’m glad her comments are on tape this time.
Once she told the west side improvement group she wanted the Black elks off Beekman Street and then flat out lied and denied saying it. This time there is video
no one from saratoga was murdered. Please get over yourself people. One person who died on 9/11 had a saratoga connection. Stop being so overly dramatic.
Also, most of the comments here about Ms. Ameyot are completely untrue. If you don't like her that's fine but stop making stuff up.
Mr.Ingmire never said he wanted the sculpture in front of the military museum so THAT tid-bit of info is straight up wrong.
6:28
Go fuck yourself. How's that for dramatic? We didnt need a saratogiwn to die for ms. Amyotrophic to be called an ass for her comments. And I didnt need any other death tom decide that you are an ASS!
Wishing people dead is wrong. Wishing evil on others is wrong. Check yourselves before you push send.
"Wishing people dead is wrong"
Who in gods name wished anyone dead?
NEXT
"Also, most of the comments here about Ms. Ameyot are completely untrue"
If you are new here I will explain the rules
Anyone can write a piece for this blog.
If you feel Phyllis was treated unfairly you are free to write a piece to defend her.You may call me any name you can think up,asshole,motherfucker,dog fucker,lousy cook are all fine.Ron Kim has already called me worse.
only two rules.
1.You can not threaten me or anyone else for that matter with physical violence[ Damming me to hell is fine}
2.You must sign your name
Sent any submission to
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The twisted connection to Nxivm. Phyllis Amyot used to be Phyllis Ferradino, she had a daughter Stephanie W. Ferradino who marred Matt Dorsey who is of council to, you guessed it NXIVM’s favorite law firm, home of Steve “The Man” Coffey O’Connell and Aronowitz. Small world isn’t it?
No moves, ugly, unskilled, can't dance; this project must fall. Ms.Amyot is on the mark with her comments about this sculpture. John, I'm shocked that you would consider putting this pile of scrap in front of the Drink Hall,one of our prized treasures.
John,
Please see: "She looks like the world's only living abortion!"
August 12, 2011 11:22 AM
Extremely offensive, no defense for it. Not even funny. Especially because it is very liely the a hole saying it is likely uglier than sin themselves. Ugly fat men judging women's looks on this blog is always a downer. Grow the fuck up.
“She looks like the world's only living abortion!
Extremely offensive, no defense for it. Not even funny.”
I concur with everything you just said but I am not responsible for the merit or lack of merit of other peoples comments.
I as moderator am responsible for allowing it and will defend that.
I have watched and heard Phyllis rant and rave and hiss and catcall at public forums for years. I have seen her browbeat and ridicule soft spoken people into submission.
Frankly she is a bully.
Calling her a living abortion though tasteless, offensive and humorless is not a physical threat and since Phyllis is a proponent of late term abortions somewhat Apropo.
Would suggest that anyone who thrusts themselves into the public spotlight by insulting their peers grow a very think skin, I know I have.
The comment stays.
John,
I am glad you have confirmed that I can count on you for a fair hearing and courteous response.
Thank you especially for protecting free speech even when it hurts. That is how we roll in America....
In God We Trust, all others pay cash!
As far as Lance goes I never quoted him as saying he wanted the thing in front of the military museum, I said "I believe he wants it in front of the military museum". I based that belief on conversations he has had with other people who relayed them to me.I trust their credibility enough to form the opinion that that is his goal.
"Calling her a living abortion though tasteless, offensive and humorless is not a physical threat and since Phyllis is a proponent of late term abortions somewhat Apropo"
Now that makes me lol. Why? To diffuse tension around the tragedies of life we have humor.
unwanted pregnanacies are already a tragedy. Termination doubles the tragedy The left knee jerk on this is off that's why we go in circles on it.
Still has to be legal but rarely used. Education on contraception is being underfunded by the right. Perfect f'n storm if idiocy.
Being slut is no excuse for an unwanted pregnancy. Education is lacking for ho's these days.
Really stoopid to underfund Family Planning.
Over Population Number ONe Problem on Earth.
So this ho Amejo - hey that rhymes! educated though she is thinks it's ok to fuck and shuck?
I have not seen the sculpture nor do I plan to until its finished, I truly believe it isn’t fair to judge it till complete
The Drink Hall would be a great location and a draw to that end of Broadway.
The whole thing reminds me of the 15 year battle against the Carousel led by respected Saratogian Mimi Boster. People were hysterical in their opposition. People claimed it would ruin the peace and quiet of Congress Park. Because of this senseless and misguided hysteria an entire generation was denied the simple joy of riding a beautiful and historical throwback to bygone era. I hope you won’t deny another generation of children the chance to experience a important part of history. To feel it and touch history not from a hundred years ago but from the new century.
I hope and believe the adults in this city will do the right thing and not listen to the mob bent on censorship
The only thing missing is the base/pedestal... which will be dictated by the site. Tuesday's Council meeting will be the time and place to decide the fate of the real 25-foot sculpture, not to be confused with a 25-word fuzzy and vague concept of a proposal. Any personal opinion on the issue demands familiarity with the completed sculpture... as proudly posted on the Arts Council website--
http://www.saratoga-arts.org/toursevents/911memorial.php
-Kyle York * More Images-
http://nowherethisnews.blogspot.com
The City Center would be a good place.
I agree with you 5:42am. It's way out of line and quite frankly off-topic as usual. This blog and the majority of comments is rather disappointing.
Wait, wait, wait...You mean NXIVM has a link to Matt Dorsey? Is that the same Matt Dorsey who is in the process of geting divorced from Steve Ferradino's daughter? Wow, maybe Matt took a few too many NXIVM courses...
Note to JT: Be sure to include O'Connell & Aronowitz on your list of businesses to avoid!
This "POST" and the majority of the comments is a mishmash of subjective snapshots of a local celebrity... along with evocative opinions of a set-in-steel piece of art. While the wild swings between the two make for an atypical "POST," let no critter walking or crawling say "This BLOG is disappointing." Far from it.
What put this BLOG on the map is John's priceless local passion. He hit the Big*Time with his almost single-handed exposure of slime that is NXIVM. It's great to see him back in town patrolling the Mean Streets of our small town of many secrets.
Dear 2:38 PM I suggest if you're "Disappointed" cancel your subscription, oh silly me I forgot reading this blog is free and you have to SEARCH for it.
Then why don’t you go read something else that isn’t so “disappointing”
Don Kauth of Saratoga Springs was killed on September 11, 2001 at the World Trade Center.
Tempered by Politics?
August 15, 2011 at 5:30 pm by Dennis Yusko
A sculpture built to bring Americans together ten years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks is tearing some apart on the eve of the anniversary.
Some city residents oppose placing Tempered by Memory, created by two New York artists with steel from the World Trade Center, on the lawn of the Saratoga Springs Visitor Center. Visitor center officials, a local artist and some preservationists believe that the 22-foot-high artwork would clash with the historic streetscape of that section of Broadway, which includes buildings and monuments from 1915. Some in the group call for the monument to go on Lake Avenue near the state Military Museum and city firehouse.
The clash has caused the City Council to skip a vote on the project’s approval, leading many to believe that the sculpture will not be displayed by Sept. 11. On Monday, the director of Saratoga Arts, the main sponsor of the project, blasted its opponents and members of the City Council for the delay in a letter to supporters that was obtained by the Times Union. Drawing a comparison to the 2004 political ad that attacked decorated Vietnam veteran John Kerry for his war credentials, director Joel Reed said opponents were “swiftboating” the 9/11 memorial.
Reed accused city Democrats of opposing the project for partisan gain during an election year, and Republicans who control the City Council of treating Sept. 11 as “an arbitrary date on the calendar.”
“Democrats attacking a community arts project created by a rainbow coalition of artists, unions, small and large businesses, and individuals from all walks of life? Republicans minimizing the significance of
the tenth anniversary of September 11, 2001, and shunting aside a project that deeply resonates with veterans and first responders? And both throwing Saratoga Arts and the chance for community unity on 9/11 under the bus in the hope of picking up a few votes,” Reed’s letter says.
He urged supporters to contact elected officials and speak in favor of the project at Tuesday’s City Council meeting in City Hall. Mayor Scott Johnson has scheduled a discussion on the topic, but no vote.
Tempered by Memory was originally slated for in front of the Saratoga Springs City Center. City officials changed that location last month to the visitor center, saying the sculpture was too large.
Several speakers protested the new site at the last City Council meeting. Michael Messinger, co-chairman of the visitor center’s board, and Lance Ingmire, a board member, said the modern sculpture would threaten the historic integrity of the area around the center. They suggested putting the art on Lake Avenue.
“It would be reprehensible to rush this process without fully vetting other locations,” Ingmire said.
Artist Amejo Amyot of the Beekman Art District took a harder line. She accused Saratoga Arts of a “serious breach of arts in public places etiquette.” The organization failed to invite calls for entries from other artists for the project before choosing sculptors John Van Alstine of Wells, Hamilton County, and Noah Savett of Gansevoort, Amyot said. “If we were to honor anything about this tragedy, it should be the people we lost,” she said. “The sculpture has no redeeming aesthetic or artistic value.”
Other speakers said that the sculpture would draw tourists and move those who see it. The city’s Design Review Commission and state Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation support “Tempered by Memory” at the visitor center, Reed said. In the letter, he accused unnamed artists of “grinding the axe of personal resentment,” and opponents of “using party fundraisers and blogs as forums for undercutting the project.”
Saratoga Arts wants the monument up by Sept. 11, Reed said in an interview Monday, adding that it has made commitments to project donors, the artists, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, from whom it received the shards of steel, iron workers and of course, the 9-11 victims.
“If you feel that the tenth anniversary of September 11, 2001, and its commemoration should transcend city politics, and this unique artwork should have a place in our city, ask (city leaders) to stop stalling and vote to accept the project,” Reed wrote.
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