NXIVM Wiki wars par deux

Well the battle at Wiki has reached a stalemate as Raniere’s article is frozen and NXIVM web editors have agreed to a one week ceasefire but not until NXIVM dirtbag JamesChambers666 put in a few stealth edits, than he called for a truce. This man earned his free weekend hot NXIVM babe, I only hope its Crazy Nurse Nancy the “Enema Queen”
JamesChambers666 was severely warned here after claiming Keyser Sözetigho was me. James also claimed Link1914 was me, and that I was in the compound with Ben Laden and that I shot Kennedy and that I kick puppies, you get the point

This is your only warning; if you purposefully and blatantly harass a fellow Wikipedian again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. You have repeatedly tried to provide personal information about Keyser Sözetigho, and accurate or not that is not allowed. The editor has specifically declined to reveal their real identity, it is not your place to do so. One more attempt to do so, and you will be indefinitely blocked from Wikipedia. -- Atama頭 19:17, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

The comment of the day goes to Keyser Sözetigho who wrote

Yes perhaps you are right. NXIVM is nothing but the world’s best self-improvement program lead by the smartest and most ethical man in the world. Now I suppose you want to go on to Jeffrey Dahmer and for the sake of neutrality describe him as having an unusual eating disorder.

I’m sure James didn’t even get that one as the first thing NXIVM training does is to Exorcise your sense of humor and replace it with an over inflated ego and sense of self-importance.

I would also like to personally thank JamesChambers666 for kindly providing a link to by site and my profile.You will be happy to know that link has provided me with over 200 new users much of whown stayed for hours to read about the fun world of NXIVM

And I liked Keyser Sözetigho idea to start some new articles such as

The Dali Lama’s highly controversial visit to Albany NY

Kristin Marie Snyder's life

You know her the 35-year-old Alaskan who immersed herself in Executive Success Programs (ESP), and the teachings of Keith Raniere and Nancy Salzman. She attended four ESP "human potential" courses in Anchorage, and traveled to Halfmoon and Colonie to meet ESP leaders on their home turf.

You know she wrote her last words scribbled in a spiral notebook found in her truck.

"I attended a course called Executive Success Programs (a.k.a. Nexivm) based out of Anchorage, AK, and Albany, NY," she wrote. "I was brainwashed and my emotional center of the brain was killed/turned off. I still have feeling in my external skin, but my internal organs are rotting. Please contact my parents ... if you find me or this note. I am sorry life, I didn't know I was already dead. May we persist into the future."

Oh I forgot to mention her body has never been found

You know from the Times Union/February 1, 2004 By Dennis Yusko Is that enough reference for ya?

User U21980 was the other NXIVM clone who was censored twice
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and this a much more serious warning

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This blog was accused of recruiting Meatpuppets
High-profile disputes on Wikipedia often bring new editors to the site. These editors are sometimes referred to as meatpuppets, following a common Internet usage. While Wikipedia assumes good faith, especially for new users, recruiting new editors to influence decisions on Wikipedia is prohibited.

Nothing could be farther from the truth as all I said in a public and open forum is that anyone with an interest can edit a Wiki page. Pro NXIVM, anti NXIVM or articles on rare Adirondack mountain orchids. You are all welcome to join wiki and edit on ANY topic you want including NXIVM.

The only people involved with meatpuppetry is NXIVM itself as inside sources tell me a high level meeting was held on 455 New Karner Rd. last night headed by the Crazy Nurse about this “Blogger problem”

Good thing Bruno is back from his bomb sniffing school.

He really takes his studies seriously
And I have increased my security on my “Russian Servers “ as James so cleverly discovered

"His website is on a server in Russia so the edits happen in that time zone. I recommend banning him from the NXVIM, Raniere and Bronfman pages. --JamesChambers666" All the relivant links are here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NXIVM#NPOV_for_NXIVM.2C_Keith_Raniere
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NXIVM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Raniere
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Keith_Raniere
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN/EW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#NXIVM.2C_NPOV.2C_COI.2C_violations_of_WP:Good_Faith.2C_abusive_language.2C_for_NXIVM.2C_Keith_Raniere
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JamesChambers666

Success in the NXIVM edit wars.

BREAKING NEWS: NXIVM cries FOWL WANTS BE BANNED FROM WIKI
James gets slapped down after running to Administrators to complain.

If someone is trying to canvass to bring in meatpuppets, that is a real concern. But regardless, you cannot attempt to reveal an editor's personal information on Wikipedia. If they let slip their real identity, or leave information on Wikipedia that otherwise reveals who they are, then that can be used as a basis for COI claims. But going to a blog and using information there to connect the dots, and using that to reveal an editor's identity will get you indefinitely blocked. I've left you with a warning this time. Please take care not to do that again. -- Atama頭 19:27, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

This is because they have been directed to participate on Wikipedia by a blog post on a website Saratoga in Decline, which has an obsessive focus on NXIVM. You can read his two posts about the "Wiki wars" here and here. ^[1] The author of that website it would seem is John Tighe, the blogger who created an attack site and is to some degree boasting about his edits: http://saratogaindecline.blogspot.com/ If you read the about me his email address is very similar: http://www.blogger.com/profile/05983865733377641879. His website is on a server in Russia so the edits happen in that time zone. I recommend banning him from the NXVIM, Raniere and Bronfman pages. --JamesChambers666 (talk) 17:41, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:NXIVM#NPOV_for_NXIVM.2C_Keith_Raniere

Well the edits were flying as over a hundred edits were entered in the Wiki-Keith Raniere self-promoting bullshit wars. Complaint after complaint was filed over every claim the dirty one ever made. A special fight erupted over the famous “I’ve had people killed tape” For now the page stands as it is till until June 8, 2011. The augment is being adjudicated by wiki administrators.
Remember you can join the fray and Wikipedia is the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.

This is how the article looks today and will stay till June 8

the page is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Raniere
discussion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Keith_Raniere

Feel free to jump in
Keith Raniere
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Keith Raniere is an entrepreneur, philosopher, and the creator of NXIVM, a business offering self-improvement seminars. In addition, Rainere offers additional classes, Executive Success Programs (ESP), that are geared towards business professionals.[1] Numberous media reports, however, have described Raniere's programs as a "cult."[2] In 1988, a test developed by New York philosopher Ron Hoeflin and printed in Omni magazine placed his IQ at between 188 and 194 (Hoeflin confirms the result). The score is said to have landed him in the 1989 Guinness Book of World Records in the category of "Highest IQ".[1]

Background
The son of New York City adman and a mother who taught ballroom dancing, he grew up in the bedroom community of Suffern, N.Y. [1] B.[3][4] He arrived in the Albany area at 16 or so—about the time his mother died—to attend the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. A few news accounts claim that he earned a triple-major in math, physics and biology, with minors in psychology and philosophy. [1] By the age of 27, Raniere was already a member of Mensa, a high-IQ society with a minimum requirement at the one-in-a-million level. Raniere gained recognition for answering correctly all but two questions on a 48-question, self- administered test, in which it is stated that Raniere "moved up to the rarified one-in-10-million level."[5]

Business background
In 1990 Raniere applied his theory to his new business, Consumers' Buyline, a networking company near Albany that promised lucrative commissions to old customers for recruiting new ones. Raniere says by the end of 1993, Consumers' Buyline had sold $1 billion in goods and services employed 80 people. He claims he was worth $50 million.[4] In 1996, Raniere was the subject of an investigation by the Office Of The Attorney General of New York State that led to the closing of Consumer buyline. A consent order went on to impose a $40000 fine and barred Raniere from ever operating a chain distributor scheme in the State of New York.[6]

In 1991, Raniere created another networking company, National Health Network, which sold vitamins.
In 1997, Raniere met the woman who would become his business partner, Nancy Salzman. In

1998, Salzman incorporated in Delaware the company that launched Executive Success Programs and applied for patents on Raniere's behavior-modification "technology". This company is now known as NXIVM. In 2007, Keith Raniere conceptualized the Ethical Humanitarian Foundation, a private, not-for-profit foundation supporting endeavors that promote embracing humanity, developing ethics, and moving humankind towards a more noble civilization.

In August 2008, he conceptualized the World Ethical Foundations Consortium (WEFC), a non-profit initiative dedicated to the building of a compassionate, ethical humanity.

In 2010, Jeane MacIntosh of the New York Post posted a hidden camera video where Keith Raniere is asked questions about his prior business dealings by an unidentified woman. MacIntosh claims that the video shows Raniere claiming to have people killed because of his beliefs. She writes: "Here's the thing," Raniere says on the 2009 video, which was sent to The Post and also posted last night on youtube.com. "I've had people killed because of my beliefs--or because of their beliefs."[7]

References
^ a b c d Kohler, Nicholas (9/9/10). "How to lose $100 million". Macleans. Retrieved 26 April 2011.
^ Hardin, Chet. Stress in the Family, Metroland (newspaper), Vol. 29, No. 32 (2006) ^ "Website Fundacion etica humanitaria". Fundacion Etica Humanitaria. Retrieved 16 April 2011.
^ a b Freeman, Michael (13 October 2003). "The Best Business Schools: Cult of Personality". Forbes. Retrieved 17 April 2011.
^ Keeney, Irene Gardner (26 June 1988). "Troy Man Has a Lot on His Mind". Times-Union. Retrieved 16 May 2011.
^ "Consent Order and Judgment - Consumers Buyline, Inc. Et. Al". Retrieved 22 May 2011. ^ MacIntosh, Jeane (22 October 2010). "'Cult' leader Keith Raniere makes killer claim on newly released video". New York Post. Retrieved 24 May 2011.

NXIVM info wars; the battle for hearts and minds.

Well first to the ethical humanitarian who put the roofing nails behind my car tire in my home parking lot. Nice try you missed. Trained from my days in Northern Ireland to sweep for car bombs, a few carefully placed nails are easy to spot. I guess you’ll have to try something else. Can’t you be a little creative? Fucking Philistines
Any way a battle of information has been raging over at Wikipedia as NXIVM related websites have been flooded with sugar coated platitudes praising NXIVM and Keith and the wonderful world of child experimentation, brainwashing and group sex. It began when someone called U21980 stated posting edits about Bouchey and extortion letters and other nonsense. Then someone calling themselves Keyser Sözetigho got into the fray posting his own links and comments.

Since that time it’s been a battle of the edits as complaints have been filed by both sides to Wikipedia staff. Generally I like the concept of Wikipedia but in the case of a cult like NXIVM with legions of brain dead but computer literate zombies posting edits without people like Mr. Keyser Sözetigho to add some balance and perspective hundreds of people who turn to Wikipedia for info can be misled into a dangerous situation.
So I would urge all of you, open your own wiki account and join the fray.The only thing it will cost you is time.

You can read them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Raniere

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Bronfman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NXIVM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_Bronfman

Well the Canadian newspaper The National Post [the Bronfman’s are Canadian white trash} made light of the divorce of Charles and Bonnie Bronfman in

Your presence is requested as we celebrate our divorce

Here

But the Brats made honorable mention next to their convicted French felon brother[what a fucked up family}

"Mr. Bronfman’s son Edgar Bronfman Jr. was convicted of insider trading this year and has had other business problems in the past. His nieces Sara and Clare have been involved with controversial self-help hypnosis group NXIVM (pronounced Nex-ee-um), which has a decidedly cultish appeal."

NXIVM grilled by HALFMOON planning board over route 9 cult compound and a sad death in Maine

First let me comment on the death of little Camden Pierce Hughes whose lifeless body was found in Maine. Many of you who know Galen and Keith Raniere along with the self-proclaimed mother of Galen NXIVM whack job Kristen Keefe contacted me to express concern for Galen’s safety. As it has been shown the child has been identified and a woman, who Fox news identified as Julianne McCrery, reportedly told a Massachusetts state trooper that she killed her son and was contemplating killing herself.
As I have said countless times I have never met Raniere or Kristen Keefe and have only been told of their parenting skills by those close to them. But what I find chilling is that former and present associates of Raniere and Keefe where so quick to believe that he was capable of harming a child. Scary stuff indeed but I'm glad people are watching out for his well being. Keep that in mind Keith and you never know who might be watching
Read more: here

NEXT

NXIVM was in the hot seat as cult “Consultant” Keith Burke explained that the 24 hour internet café was just a ruse to allow the owners of the café Sara and Clare Bronfman along with Pam Cafritz under the umbrella of NXV Trust, 457 New Karner Road, Colonie, NY to hold cult meeting and orgies in Halfmoon. Anyway here are the complete minutes of the meeting

11.029 OB Apropos, 1475 Route 9 – Change of Use Mr. Keith Burke, representing the owner of Apropos, stated the following: I am here tonight representing the owners of Apropos. I have submitted the additional requested information from our last meeting. I’m hoping that that addressed the questions that you had about the activities. Mr. Watts stated the following: We have people here in the audience tonight who are not privy to this information. So, you are making a presentation for a change of use for your facility so why don’t you tell us what your proposed uses are going to be. Mr. Burke stated the following: The uses are at the desire of the owners, which is Claire Bronfman, her sister Sara Bronfman and Pam Cafritz. They originally intended to open up the facility as an Internet Café but unfortunately that has not prevailed. At the discretion of the owners, for individuals that would like to go into the facility and have a birthday party, a social evening and as I have said in my note to you, there are events that are associated with seasonal times such as Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year’s etc. Nothing would be scheduled in the facility other than the owners who would typically use it once a month themselves to have a business meeting, which is typically on a Sunday afternoon or early evening. Other than that, it is just a facility that is used at the discretion of the owners and it would be a private use. Mr. Watts stated the prior use that you were approved for was as an Internet Café and this is a new use this way. So, if you wanted to go back to being a 24-hour Internet Café, you would come back before this Board with a new application. Mr. Burke stated yes sir. Mr. Higgins stated the following: I have been at all of these meetings and this is the first I’ve heard the other 2 names as far as owners. Is this owned by a corporation or is the deed in all 3 names? Mr. Burke stated the following: From my understanding, the deed is in all 3 names. I think it is owned by a Limited Liability Corporation (LLC). Mr. Higgins asked and are all 3 members listed as members of the LLC? Mr. Burke stated yes sir. Mr. Watts stated the application that we have here indicates the property owner is NXV Trust, 457 New Karner Road, Colonie, NY. Mr. Burke stated right. Mr. Higgins asked so they’re the members of the trust, the trustees of the trust and the beneficiaries of the trust. Mr. Burke stated I don’t know all those answers for you and I believe that they’re owners and beneficiaries of the trust. Mrs. Murphy asked Mr. Williams if the Planning Department had an authorization showing that these people have the authority to ask for this use. Mr. Williams stated yes it is in the file and it was signed by Claire Bronfman. Mrs. Murphy stated so you do have the owner authorization. Mr. Watts stated we have the owner authorization as Village Hall LLC (Apropos) and it authorizes Keith Burke to bring this application before us and it was signed by Claire Bronfman. Mr. Burke stated right. Mr. Ouimet asked so, wouldn’t that be the applicant; Village Hall LLC? Mrs. Murphy stated and that is who is here. Mr. Ouimet stated right and that with the change of use 04/11/2011 Planning Board Meeting Minutes 13 request as titled. Mrs. Murphy stated yes. Mr. Watts stated the following: Yes, you have the business; the project name and then you have the property owner. I’m not an expert in corporate law so you may have the business operated by one entity and the property owned by a separate entity, which I believe is what we probably have here. Mrs. Murphy stated the following: Which is fine. I just wanted to make sure that they had the owner authorization form. Mr. Berkowitz asked what occurs at a typical business meeting? Mr. Burke stated the following: I don’t attend them and it’s not my business. It’s between Claire, her sister Sara and Pam Cafritz. I can’t answer your question in precise terms. Mr. Berkowitz asked would it only be the 3 of them in a business meeting or would there be more people at a business meeting? Mr. Burke stated it would not be a large meeting; it would be a small gathering. Mr. Berkowitz asked would that be 90 people or 5 to 10 people? Mr. Burke stated no, it would be about a half of dozen people to as many 10 people. Mr. Nadeau stated the following: What type of business are they in? Is it real estate? Mr. Burke stated they do have other properties that they won collectively, so they could be discussing that. Mr. Nadeau stated that’s what I’m saying; is it a real estate business? Mr. Burke stated I’m probably really not the person to answer that for you. Mr. Nadeau asked but aren’t you representing them? Mr. Burke stated the following: If they would be talking about the Apropos facility of maybe an upcoming event and somebody wanted to use it, how are you going to use it and how are they going to set it up. I could give you something in that order. Mr. Nadeau stated you’re representing them but you don’t what type of business they are? Mr. Burke stated I’m representing them for the application and the events that I know they take place at their authorization with the facility. Mr. Nadeau stated I’m confused. Mr. Watts stated the following: In the application that was submitted and it’s in the file, the narrative stated “as for the number of people that attend these events, that can range from as little as 5 to a maximum of 90+. The facility has a permitted parking space for 91 vehicles and no event will exceed the parking capacity and all attending will park in the allotted space”. So, is there going to be 90 people; at one point you gave us higher numbers and then you gave us lower numbers? So, as long as the parking isn’t spilling out onto Route 9. Mr. Nadeau stated in the application there’s nothing there that says it’s a birthday cake company or a real estate company. Mr. Watts stated the narrative stated that there are social events such as Sunday brunches, birthday parties, and evening dinners. Mr. Nadeau stated typically when we have an applicant, they tell us what their type of business is and I’m a little confused, as we don’t know what it is. Mr. Roberts stated the following: This is the second time this poor guy is going through this with us and I feel that he is confused. How come the owners aren’t here to answer our questions? I think that would clear up everything. Mrs. Murphy stated the following: I don’t think you’re telling me that they’re operating a business from this site. They are doing professional business meetings and there is no business being run from this site. Mr. Burke stated correct, there is no business being run at this location. Mrs. Murphy asked would there be any outside storage? Mr. Burke stated no. Mrs. Murphy asked would there be any manufacturing? Mr. Burke stated no. Mrs. Murphy asked would there be any light industrial work being done? Mr. Burke stated no, nothing of that nature at all. Mr. Berkowitz asked is their business a business meeting? Mr. Burke stated like I said, the owners will have a meeting typically once a month there. Mr. Roberts asked about what? Mrs. Murphy stated the following: We don’t care what their meetings are about. It is a conference room that they are using for meetings. We care about how many people are going to be there and we care that it meets the fire code. Mr. Roberts asked would those meetings be open to the public? Mrs. Murphy stated the following: Mr. Burke is saying no. It’s a private meeting for a business. Most people pay money for that type of thing but Mr. Burke is saying that they are going to offer it for free. The business is the four walls that they allow people to use for birthday parties and for meetings. I guess the word “business” is what’s throwing us off; it’s a meeting hall. Mr. Burke stated that is correct. Mr. Roberts stated so I guess it would be social gatherings. Mr. Burke stated correct. Mr. Ouimet stated but they’re not in the business of renting this “hall” for any particular 04/11/2011 Planning Board Meeting Minutes 14 purpose; be it birthday parties, Thanksgiving Dinner, Easter Dinner, a business meeting or whatever? Mr. Burke stated no. Mr. Ouimet stated so; they are not in the business of renting the space either for compensation or for gratis? Mr. Burke stated the following: That is correct. They’re not in the business of renting the facility. Mr. Higgins asked approximately, what would be the hours of operation? Mr. Burke stated when I’ve attended, they would usually start around 7:00 to 8:00 pm and it would be over by the midnight range. Mr. Watts stated the application stated that you would be open 24 hours a day, which is what we previously approved with the Internet Café. Mr. Higgins asked are you going to be open 24 hours a day? Mr. Burke stated when I’ve been there, the usually have a dinner and a social that starts at 7:00 pm and it’s usually over by midnight. Mrs. Murphy asked is that a business social? Mr. Burke stated no, it’s a private event. Mrs. Murphy stated the following: They would be meeting the fire code, they are meeting the parking regulations, they’re not having outside storage and nothing that he is proposing is a use that is not allowed in that area. You don’t normally ask someone what the content of the business is? Mr. Roberts stated but we do ask what their business is. Mr. Nadeau further stated every applicant that comes in I ask what type of business they would be running. Mrs. Murphy stated they would be running a meeting hall. Mr. Ouimet stated but they’re not. Mrs. Murphy stated the following: We don’t care if the business is for profit or not. As long as they’re in compliance with your code, which having meetings, having private gatherings, etc. it fits in your code and they meet your parking requirements. The code now has enough to determine the type of structure necessary to be in compliance with Building Code. They’re not serving alcohol, they’re not preparing food, and they’re having the food catered so the New York State Department of Health (NYSDOH) is going to have separate rules for them. There is adequate sewer, there is water on-site and your obligations have been meet. We don’t need to know exactly what it is they’re meeting about. Mr. Roberts asked Mrs. Murphy if she feels the Board has heard enough to act on this proposal. Mrs. Murphy stated the following: When you have a Internet Café, they were there for the internet but you don’t know what they were doing in meetings in the back because that didn’t matter. As long as you knew they were going to have meetings in the back. Now the meetings are in the front. Mr. Roberts asked would the kitchen be used for a source of catering? Mr. Burke stated yes, the kitchen would be used if a caterer came in and used the kitchen but it is not used by people who are not in the business of catering. Mr. Higgins stated so the preparation of food would be off-site, the caterer would bring it in and then just serve it out of the kitchen. Mr. Burke stated that is correct. Mrs. Murphy stated yes, that what the allegation says. Mr. Ouimet asked so if we were to approve this application, we would approve merely the fact that they can use this space for what they’ve come to us to say they want to use it for? Mrs. Murphy stated right and there are no outside activities permitted. Mr. Ouimet stated and we’re not approving the use of the kitchen? Mrs. Murphy stated the following: Unless there is a caterer. The caterer was mentioned in the application and the NYSDOH has been there and there is a NYSDOH approval. Mr. Ouimet stated the following: Okay, the NYSDOH has been there and they got an approval to run a vegetarian restaurant and an Internet Café. Now they have withdrawn that and they’re now saying that they are not running an Internet Café and we are not running a vegetarian restaurant. They want to use the structure to hold gatherings. So, are we being asked to approve the whole ball of wax or just the gatherings? Mrs. Murphy stated just the gatherings. Mr. Ouimet stated so in essence we’re not approving the sale of food, we’re not approving an Internet Café and we’re not approving a 24-hour open operation. Mr. Nadeau stated we would be approving the 24-hour operation. Mrs. Murphy stated they could have meetings until 3:00 am in the morning if they want. Mrs. Murphy stated they cannot have outside gatherings, they can’t sell alcohol, they cannot store things outside and they are not selling food. Mr. Roberts stated so; they have fulfilled their obligations? Mrs. Murphy stated the following: I can’t answer that for you. You, as a Board, have to determine whether or not you are comfortable with this proposal. Mr. Watts stated with our review of this, we are fulfilling our obligation as the Town of Halfmoon Planning Board when we approve or disapprove 04/11/2011 Planning Board Meeting Minutes 15 this application. Mr. Berkowitz stated the following: Could they have activities at this location that were bought or paid for at another site? For instances, their main office is located on New Karner Road; so if somebody pays for something at New Karner Road, could they transfer that up to Apropos? Mrs. Murphy stated as long as they’re underneath the 90 maximum attendees and they’re not cooking for them. Mr. Ouimet asked so, are we saying that whatever we approve will have the maximum occupancy of 90? Mrs. Murphy stated yes, that is in their application. Mr. Ouimet stated they have said 90+. Mrs. Murphy stated they have to give a firm figure. Mr. Burke stated I’m not sure what the fire code is for that facility but I think it is in access of 90+. Mr. Roberts stated you have to give us a number. Mr. Burke stated there would not be an excess of 90 people. Mr. Watts stated the following: Well, it could be whatever you want but our fire code people would go to the site and based on the size of the building and they can tell you what the maximum load is. We look at that at any facility and that is part of our fire inspection. Mr. Ouimet stated so, if it’s going to be more than 90 and it has parking for parking for 91 vehicles, how much can it be and when does it exceed the allowed parking area? Mr. Watts asked on what basis did we calculate the parking? Mr. Williams stated the fire code is 1 person per every 15 SF, so it would probably be up in the hundreds. Mr. Ouimet asked how many parking spaces do they have. Mr. Berkowitz stated they could have 5 spaces for 5 buses and they could have 500 people in there. Mr. Williams stated if they have 91 parking spaces, then you are assuming that all 91 people that have come there bring their own vehicles. Mr. Ouimet stated the following: The site has 91 parking spaces, so they can’t park any more than 91 cars there. We have no idea how many employees or how many owners representatives will be there. How many people would be serving or monitoring whatever meeting or function or party or catering function or whatever is going on. So, we don’t know how many of those spaces would be dedicated to staff. Consequently, how many spaces are going to be designated to other people who don’t normally associate with staff? It’s kind of like a cloud. Mrs. Murphy stated the following: If the Board wants to pick a number based on the parking, then that is a reasonable process for you to go through. Because you can articulate a reason as to why you’re limiting the number based on the parking. For instances, the Elk’s have 800 different organizations come in there and have meetings. You don’t ask them what organizations are coming, how many people they’re going to have and what they’re going to serve. You don’t do that so, I don’t see why this would be any different. I can see saying 90 is your limit because you have 91 parking spaces. You can say 85 is your limit because of the 91 parking spaces. Mr. Roberts stated Mr. Burke just said 90. Mr. Ouimet stated I don’t want to suggest an artificial limit because the applicant is coming to us saying that this is what they want to use their business for. Mr. Higgins asked what was the occupancy when we had it approved for the Internet Café? Mrs. Murphy stated but that didn’t happen. Mr. Higgins asked who puts up the occupancy signs saying that this can be occupied by a certain number of people? Mr. Watts stated the following: Our Code Enforcement Officers do that. When we had Apropos, we had 5 full-time employees and 4 part-time employees. Code Enforcement goes to the site and they look at the restrooms and the facility and they make sure that everything is in compliance. Mr. Higgins asked so, after this is approved by this Board, would the Code Enforcement people go to the site and would they put up the maximum occupancy sign on the wall? Mrs. Murphy stated in this particular application, it would make sense. Mr. Watts stated the following: If we give approval to this I would say, that we give the approval and indicate in the approval process that should we have issues where they exceed the parking and we have parking issues, that the Planning Board has the authority to re-visit the maximum capacity of this building. If I see or we get complaints that there were cars out on Route 9 or they are parked over in Crescent Commons or wherever, I’m sure we’ll hear from people. I would be willing to revisit the issue as Code Enforcement and Planning. Mr. Roberts stated like I said, a few minutes ago Mr. Burke said 90, so why don’t we stay with the 90 and put a parking contingency in there as well. Mr. Watts stated that’s fine. 04/11/2011 Planning Board Meeting Minutes 16 Mr. Roberts made a motion to approve the change of use application for Apropos with a condition on no outside storage or activities, a maximum of 90 attendees at any one event and the Planning Board retains the right to to re-visit the site/use if parking ever becomes an issue.

NXIVM claims global conspiracy; could tin foil hats be next?

NXIVM is so predictable it’s like I can read their minds {trust me there isn’t much there}.
NXIVM is a cult on steroids as they still haven’t come down from their Pyrrhic victory in California. Steve Coffey has been replaced by Crockett as the Bronfman’s go to shyster as his crusade against poor Susan Done in Washington now has his full attention along with Tiffany H. Scott, Seattle Attorney {BioHere} who specializes in areas of patents, copyrights, trademarks, and trade secrets. Note to Mr Scott your wife fits Keith Ranieres model of beauty thin, long straight hair, lots of money, let me give you some friendly advice.Your wife, girlfriend, whatever starts flying off to beautiful Halfmoon NY for something called intensives you just might want to check her breath for the smell of berries and nuts and look for rug burns from cheap townhouse wall to wall. Don’t ever say you weren't warned.

Anyway Ms. Tiffany under the tutelage of Crock O’Shit has been locked in a nasty and brutal battle of motions as seen
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And is now trying to lay the groundwork for the grand conspiracy by dragging into this abortion these poor souls some of who I’ve never heard of.
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So somehow even though, except for Bouchey I’ve never met, spoke to or even heard of these people I’m conspiring with them . Funny shit, maybe they’ve been contacting me through a Ouija Board

{I must be conspiring with spirits, hey can you subpoena my Ouija Board?}Anyway they have gone as far as to disparage the integrity of NXIVM nemeses Ross attorney Peter L. Skolnik as seen
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Causing this severe rebuke from Mr.Skolnik
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Too bad they outlawed dueling for these two would have been doing the Burr–Hamilton waltz in Weehawken, New Jersey instead of trading insults in a Jersey Federal court.

And I’m sorry to report there has been another billionaire divorce in the Bronfman family as Charlie Bronfman and his wife, Bonnie are splitsville
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No word who will get Clair’s wedding gift to her Uncle Charlie, a fine statue titled "Keith gives my horse an intensive”

Till next time remember NXIVM I can read your thoughts, so keep that tin foil tight and don’t let the Tighe bite