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Tuesday, February 5, 2013

City Council meeting 02/05/13: city democrats, Comprehensive Review Committee DOA .



Civic Center gun show according to Susan Steer

Once there was a busy little Victorian City that was the envy of the northeast. But if you listened to these city council meetings you would think this town was a dangerous, drunken, toxic hellhole with gun totting bad man stocking up with c-4, ammo and assault weapons purchased at unregulated arms bazaars at the Civic Center.
Seriously just when you thought the gun show controversy would die down Susan Steer, husband Bob Turner and her merry minions came “loaded for bear” I don’t think she’d like that analogy. OK carrying binders full of women I mean Data. Then they comically claimed they resented the police expense that their protest at the Civic Center caused. Really. The pro-gun people were also present with the obligatory quote from Adolf Hitler’s book Mein Kampf on gun control. Enough on that.

Weep’en Willie McTygue was on a roll tonight. Not a tear in sight but he had water on the brain as he lashed out in a confusing tirade about water, Wilton, conspirators and Anthony "Skip" Scirocco Commissioner of Public Works. But all I could think of was

Dr. Strangelove - Precious Bodily Fluids


Nobody on the council touched the Gun Show or Precious Bodily Fluids at this meeting. Then we had two presentations .One from Anthony "Skip" Scirocco that took an hour but basically came to the conclusions that the city had lots of water and a second from a gentleman from Amtrak that spoke about Saratoga losing one of its two daily trains. This would make a 17million dollar train station even more useless.

The meeting finally began at 8:40. By this time most had left even Yepsen was gone only to return  later for her agenda. Then the kicker. Michele Madigan, Commissioner of Finance, John Franck, Commissioner of Accounts and Chris “Toothy” Mathiesen, Commissioner of Public Safety will do all within their power to stop the Mayor’s Comprehensive Review Committee from ever getting off the ground. They refused to summit any names for consideration and will refuse to fund it. Madigan called it DOA. 
Then she tried to give the Mayor a history lesson saying “Mayor Lenz tired this and it didn’t turn out to well for him”

Well let me give you a history lesson.

I was against Lenz too. Not for his Comprehensive Review Committee but because he supported Steven Towne’s disastrous reassessment of the city. That along with wide spread disenchantment with Republicans in general do to George Bush and the Iraqi war. Democrats were swept into power giving us Val Keehn. Within two months people wanted Mike Lenz back. Keehn went on to go down in history as perhaps the worst Mayor in history and her comprehensive plan is gathering dust somewhere. So before you warn a three term Mayor better look around.  That bald guy next to you. You know the one who just hired Billy McTygue’s ex, Tara Coxworth in his department. The one whose GAP’s committee gave us an alcohol and drug treatment center with possible Methadone clinic on the cities prime entrance-way. The one who failed to disclose his business relationships and lowered an assessment on a home he was under contract to buy, than lowered his deputy’s assessment to boot. The other guy you know the democrat “toothy” the one that is a running joke in the city. The one who said the ambulance service was doing swimmingly, thank you but didn’t give a public a copy of the report. Now that’s what I call open and transparent.  Yea good luck with him getting reelected.

The rest of the meeting was the usual bullshit. Someone texted Yepsen to come back and everybody at least the Dems went to the bar
Saratoga in Decline
We never Sleep
Because my bodily fluids are being sold to Wilton

38 comments:

Anonymous said...

John, before you credit J. Franck with giving "Weeping Willie"'s ex-girlfriend a job in his dept. I suggest you investigate a bit further. If you do, I'm sure you will find that Tara is a tenant of Elio's. I wouldn't creidt B. McTygue with obtaining this position, he & Tara aren't even on speaking terms.

I'd also suggest before you continue to show B. McTygue in such a "dirty" light you do some other investigation on your own regarding the Wilton water deal. I think you will fine that Wilton hasn't signed anything, they've requested their payment for the water back, the water has been turned off, turned on, turned off, & turned on again once a Schenectady Gazette reporter started asking questions on the water treatment plant. Seems everyone interviewed had a different answer. Two or three stating the water has been turned off, one Commissioner stating the direct opposite. Once you've checked into these two matters you may or may not come to a different conclusion.

Anonymous said...

What's wrong with the Wilton Water deal JT besides everything? First the wrong person is being blamed for making this happen,the council member who made this happen is Mathesian (HE WAS THE SWING VOTE HERE)and he voted for it,everything Scirocco has done in regerds to this deal in my opinion has been illegal-----just looking at this Council everybody has their own agenda and it has nothing to do with being a partisan....there're personal agendas',very different.....looking at this mess as a taxpayer and in all fairness they all can be beat because singuarly they stink and collectively they're disfunctional.On another note,the Cities representative for county Ms.Jo-anne Yepsen is currently engaged with a left wing loon ball and they are trying to undermine the City Center...was she elected to keep Commerce out of the City?,this elected offical should be removed from office.

Anonymous said...

The big Democratic meeting at Elis'house in which "The Weeper" attended was to finalize the deal,which was to give Tara the job in Francks' Office so she can earn money and pay rent to Eli,hell that's right out of the democratic party play book, never mind whether she's qualified or not just as long as the BOSS gets paid.Lets'see:Meth Clinic at the Gate way to the City,The smelly Wilton Water Deal,Charter Change,questionable hiring practices,the scandal in Civil Service,these are all being championed by the Democratic Party,,time to vote these power hungry few out,time to sober up.

Anonymous said...

The dust gathering Comp Plan was a good document .. it only neeed some fine tuning by an editor to pull it together. It was the result of 9 long months of hard work and dedication by a well represented committee, but it failed to make it to the Council table for ratification because of the distracted vapid mayor.

The train/bus station is far from useless.

Anonymous said...

This spectacle was too much too miss. First regardless of the subject matter the disrepct and anger shown by Mr. McYgue reflects he has some serious problems. He is worse than Mattieson. As for the Comprehensive plan there is nothing in writing in the charter nor the state law that states the council selects the committee. The Council's role is to approve the expense and than when presented with the completed plan give their input on how to improve or eliminate an area. Pretty simple but not for this bunch. It is all politically cheoreographed with the goal being to demean the Mayor and undrmine him at any possible chance. In effect what they are accomplishing is nothing but hrurting the city to go forward in a positive manner. Each have some problems with ego and possibly more and have and will become the disgrace of the city.At least Skippy did a nice job with his water presntation and used professionals to support his point. They make a point but can't substaniate it. Why was the 2012 Ambulance Service Report distributed and not discussed at the end of the meeting for transparency reasons. Does the taxpayer matter less than the separate egos of this bunch. they cna kill the plan and slow down the process but will pay for being obstructionists rather than commissioners. Most them shouldn't be there anyway. Another $26,000 for EMS training. Let's spend and spend, hurt the City Center which is the cities revenue engine and than whine when revenues decrease especially in the short term low growth economy. The "My way or the highway approach" will not work. It doesn't work at the Federal and State level and won't work here. Hell the State and Feds already screed up their first attempt at a decent gun restrction law!!

Anonymous said...

The weeper really shouldn't drink before he speaks to the council

Anonymous said...

7:10am he did reek of alcohol,he's not the same person he was.

Anonymous said...

These democrats have really become the laughing stock. Do they have a mayoral candidate yet? Is clue Franck going to be grilled for his assessment wheelings and dealings? Time for him to hit the skids! Take him out and the rest will crumble.

Anonymous said...

How to do you with the following;
A. John Frank - Manipualator
B. Christian Mattieson - A troubled man who is never wrong and need a serious mental eveluation.
C. Michele Madigan - A newcomer caught up with the political system who cosositently looks for ways to help and hurt the statem at the same time. Her arrogance is well defined and the compnay she keeps will ruin her future in politics. She is a control freak as well.Anyone can move dollars produced by previous councils from account to account. Let's see how she can do when the money dries up or hope we won't have to experience another tearful event.
Figure that out and maybe the city can move forward. As for McTygue he needs some serious time to eliminate the anger and vindictatives he reflects on a constant basis.He is not the person he once was.

Anonymous said...

This just shows the voters how corupt and screwy "these" Democrats are(I'm life long one)but don't approve of "these",why not blame the person who cast the vote that set the Wilton Water deal in Motion? Because it doesn't fit the Democratic Partys' narative of trying to blame the Republican Party for everything...the water deal that the "loons"are saying is soooo scandalous was set in motion by a democrat...Mathesian...why aren't the "loonies" attacking him??There's no creditability with their complaints just drunk'en FOLLY and on top of that democrat Yepsen is chasing commerce out of the City.

Anonymous said...

Good Comment 7:43. This is the new brand of Democrat described as Progressive but in reality are regressive. Half of them reflect in the life history they can't even keep a familt together. That's what I call not meeting a committment. Everything the Progessives have accomplished to date has been regressive. I am also a Democrat but when I see these people I try to avoid their cultlike mentality.

Anonymous said...

Close Caroline Street down,give water to wilton,get raped then get yelled at for being outside,destroy an entrance to the city, give assessment breaks to employees,hire civil service chairmans' tenant so she can pay him rent,oooohh if people would just leave us "demonuts" alone we could accomplish so much more..the above is only the beginning.

Once an Elephant said...

What a bunch of shallow, phony, half-truthed, adulterated, selfish, grand-standing, self absorbing, pontificating, emotionally disheveled, intellectually disturbed, sensory deprived, memory challenged, asparteme-addicted, prescription overdosed, (did I say phony?), phony, heinous, off-the-beam, credibly void, dishonorable, easily manipulated, sexually-deprived, testosterone imbalanced, misguided, intransigent, psychotic, close minded, controlled, single-issue, phony (did I say phony?), lying cretins! My God, somebody help me! Have I run out of constructive adjectives and destructive adverbs with which to describe these people? (lol)

"Democrats."
Ah--there we go. One word. Simple.

So Bruno, where do I send the check? Things are getting so bad I find myself pining for the days of Ollie North and the Iran-Contra Affair. I got to get back to work. Thanks JT. (sigh)

Anonymous said...

The Comprehensive Plan Committee has always had representatives from each Department with the Mayor getting an extra vote. And why would the Mayor put Birge on that committee, the fact is that the man knows nothing about planning or land use. He's a car salesman with a degree in social work who wormed his way up to the top with a bogus title and a fat salery.
Birge's planning group brought us the transfat zones that jerrymandered accross the city redistributing the wealth like it was urban renewal all over agaion.

Anonymous said...

8:48AM,send the check to Bill and Hillary or maybe ron kim(PU)

Anonymous said...

It was nice of Madigan to complement Mr.Scirocco on his fine PRESENTATION of our current water supply,if only Mathesian would put something like that together on the future revenues involving the EMS system and Madigan as the chief financial officer of the city should be demanding it.

Anonymous said...

Great job jt,the talk in city hall this morning is what a wonderful program skippy put together last night and the mental state of Bill Mctygue better known down here in Four Winds as "Windy Willie",city hall onlookers think he's gone bonkers'...Ohhh the way we were.

Anonymous said...

You vote for democrats, this is what you get! How can anyone expect differently! The definition of stupidity is making the same stupid mistakes over and over, but expecting a different outcome!

Anonymous said...

John you are bought and paid for by the Mayor. Let's tell the truth on why you attack all except the Mayor.

Ben lives on said...

Why is it that the people who are bought and paid for always think everyone is bought and paid for?

Don't you have a cab to drive?

Anonymous said...

Why isn't she in school JT? Is she still peeved because "these"loon balls after vetting her gave her the thanks but no thanks we'll walk attitude.

Bill McTygue said...

JT, I usually don't read this Blog because it has become so vile. But on this occasion, I must make an exception and defend my good name. The attacks against me for speaking to the City Council last night and accusing me of somehow being drunk or smelling of alcohol brings your Blog to new lows, not to mention the delusional state of some of these characters who remain anonymous on this blog. To even have to respond to such claims makes me wonder if some of your political lackeys are even capable of carrying on a civil conversation dealing with the facts.
You really need to start filtering some of this garbage that typically appears daily on this space.
Some people obviously find it entertaining. I find it pathetic! Excuse me for stepping on the toes of some of your political cronies. I'll tell you what smells, it's the Wilton water deal that been cooked up behind closed doors promising to sell City water at the same time the state Department of Health is telling the City we haven't enough for our own use here in the City. If John Tighe was really interested in the truth patrons of this blog would be reading how his friends in City Hall have plotted to get large real estate interests in the Town of Wilton City supplied water and have City taxpayers pay for it! Simply put, you aren't reading about the Wilton Water scandal because it cuts to close to some of JT's pals in City Hall. So to those who choose to take shots at me and hide behind anonymous, I can only say, in the eyes of anyone with a half-a-brain, you remain very small and incapable of dealing with the truth!

Anonymous said...

The main question on this water is this,why is the city spending a million dollars on bog meadow to get a 1.9million gallons of water a day??when the city can spend a $100,000 and update the saratoga lake option and have all the water you can ever need,the city just needs to apply for the permit,studies have all been done,why are we wasting this money?

Anonymous said...

Very nice Mr. Mctygue but why did Mathesian vote for this smelly deal,the truth please!

Anonymous said...

So does that mean Bill McT and HIS cronies will trounce all over the property of a private citizen again without their permission to run a pipe line for Lake water? Or will anyone recognize that his brother had his hands on this Wilton Water deal before Skippy even took office? These democrats are hipocrits. Frank,Mattigan and Mathieson need to be gone yesterday.

Ben lives on said...

Billy you are of course welcome to write here anytime and I'll be happy to give you the front page if you wish
That said I have had a front row seat to your increasingly erratic behavior in front of the council.In truth I think the Mayor has shown you to much leeway and personally I would have had you removed. The fact that people think you might have been drinking is a completely reasonable assumption.

I have many issues with Skippy and his running of DPW.You know that I've been writing about his mismanagement,the filthy conditions of city streets etc etc
for to long.
Your friends the Democrats have refused to run any one against him.
One of your cronies Chris “Toothy” Mathiesen cast the swing vote to allow him to sell the water to Wilton.
Frankly I don't see the big deal.
I also have info from former city employees that tell me of a faulty valve that allowed the unlimited flow of water to Wilton when Roy McDonald was Wilton supervisor under your watch. In a court of law I'll be happy to name names.

And for you info I have no cronies in city hall,I don't seek a job I'm not a developer. I live quite modestly and am happy doing so.
I've have strived to do what is best for Saratoga,nothing more nothing less.
Perhaps if you are so unhappy with Skippy you can convince your friends{you know the ones who brought down your brother and put Skip in office} to run someone against him but we know that won't happen.Ellio wouldn't like it.

Anonymous said...

Ellio will not go against the syndicate,sorry to hear he went against Tommy though.

Anonymous said...

As a long-time Saratogian, I have voted my conscience every time. Some of my votes were for Dems, some for Republicans. I voted for the person, not the party.
When the person showed that he or she did not live up to my expectations, or live up to their promises, I helped to vote them out.
One person who I voted for consistently was Tom McTygue. He knew Saratoga Springs, backwards and forward. He could give a presentation without notes. He was elected while still in his twenties. Yes, he was a bully, yes he was on top of all DPW workers, from the top to the bottom. He knew his job and he did it well.
He had a lot of help from his brother Bill, and they made a great team.
All these accusations against the McTygue family need to stop. Unless someone has proof of wrongdoings, they should stop dragging the McTygue name in the mud.

Anonymous said...

So let me get this straight.Billy can make all the accusations he wants but no one else can?

Anonymous said...

When you have drank the Kool-aid you will see what Billy now sees...the conspiracy from the right,it's there!

Bill McTygue said...

John, Anytime you want to sit and deal with the facts, I'm prepared to do so. I will not chase unfounded rumors about past history dealing with anonymous sources making claims about unlimited flows of water going into Wilton. All I can say is that is simply not true because for the past 40 years all water services in the City and even customers outside the City have been metered. Also, I'd be happy to explain my reasoning for firmly believing the just hatched Wilton Water deal is bad for the City and also remind you that I was the one who broke this story last August. Without my blowing the cover on this story last year, this thing would have happened without you or anyone else for that matter ever hearing about it. Your friends in the Mayor's office did everything they could to run cover on this latest water deal (put in motion by fellow republican Scirocco) to sell water to new residential areas off Ingersoll Road by simply making the excuse that it was somehow tied to the Original 1998 water sale agreement to sell water to exclusive commercial districts in the Town Wilton at Exit 15. Come on JT, let's put all these personal attacks aside and I'll put my facts on the table for you to better understand.. you are being duped on this one; just because it's easier to launch personal attacks than to argue the facts!
While you can criticize my personal appearance, which I really don't believe you characterization is correct, I can also take shots at you. But I won't stoop to that level.
Let's meet. I have a lot of information if you care anything at all about the facts?

Ben lives on said...

I have never shown the disrespect to any council(that includes Val Keehn)that you have of late.

You have shown that you feel for some reason you are entitled to more than two minutes of fame like the rest of us.You're not if you feel you belong at the council table than man up and run for mayor.
Until then you get what the rest of us get and nothing more.

I wonder how you would treat your detractors,maybe a laser? Again I've been duped by no one and am a pariah in city hall and that suits me just fine Want to talk filthy sidewalks,shitty flowers,sleeping workers I'm all ears.

Water to Wilton at the 3x the price what's the big deal? You did it.
Finally ask your fellow democrats like Charlie Brown if he intents to run anyone against Skippy.

Just a tip.When complaining about personal attacks it helps if you don't make personal attacks in the same paragraph.

Anonymous said...

John it's clear Billy is off his rocker.

Anonymous said...

JT,don't look him in the eye it's what he wants after they drink the KOOL-aid they no longer can blink use your judgement but you've been fore warned my friend.

Anonymous said...

Billy - You have lready stooped to a new level and for what rationale I don't understand. You have not been the person I have known for over 30 years. Are you catching this fro John or is it the reverse?

Anonymous said...

Pure desparation on the dems part. McTygue,Yepsen,Franck are grasping at straws. Madigan hasn't been credible since her Watervliet football team days.

Anonymous said...

Dave Harper has a golden opportunity here,will he be the man for the moment or will it be a moment lost..political leadership is needed now Dave.

Anonymous said...

Billy, DO NOT sit down and discuss any matter with Tighe. He will sweet talk you in to an 'interview' then will not print a word of the conversation but will make up his own story and you'll kick yourself for being had! He is not to be trusted. He makes reference that he never showed any disrespect to any Council (even the Keehn Council), see, another in a long line of bull sh*t he spews. If you do sit down with him to talk, bring about 6 people with you and he won't be able to stop shaking long enough to turn his recorder on.